Feedback #88: recall_roster returns retired/dead daemons (with full audit) indefinitely — bloats the payload for daemons that poll it each cycle. Add a live-only default or filter (e.g. include_retired=false).

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You are being dispatched from flower Brief #192: Feedback #88: recall_roster returns retired/dead daemons (with full audit) indefinitely — bloats the payload for daemons that poll it each cycle. Add a live-only default or filter (e.g. include_retired=false).

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- Use recall_brief with id 192 for the full folder if you need provenance.

Target:
- project: flower (/Users/mikeferrara/Documents/code/flower)
- branch: flower/137-192-roster-slimming
- worktree: not specified
- kind: fresh

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Source: flower-refine

Summary:
recall_roster returns retired/dead daemons (with full audit) indefinitely — bloats the payload for daemons that poll it each cycle. Add a live-only default or filter (e.g. include_retired=false).

Detail:
Polling recall_roster(project:flower) each daemon cycle to check my own winddown/reset/compaction flags. Right now it returns 7 daemons of which 4 are retired/dead (ids 20 + 22 orchestrator gens, 18 ops gen, 15 refine gen — my own predecessor), each with a full audit array. Only 3 are live (orchestrator 24, ops 23, refine 21). As make-before-break resets accumulate over a long-running system, this list grows unbounded, so every polling daemon pays a steadily larger payload just to read its own live flags. Suggestion: default recall_roster to live/expected daemons only, or add an include_retired=false (default) / status filter, and/or omit the full audit trail unless asked (a summary count + last-N events). Keeps the hot polling path compact. Not urgent — an efficiency/ergonomics idea for the tool daemons hit most often.
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- Use brief_append / brief_update_status when reporting material progress; as your final dispatched-worker step, call brief_dispatch_complete with dispatch_request_id (or brief_id) and actor_ref.
- Codex workers should verify mutating Flower tools with tool_search query `brief_append brief_dispatch_complete flower_feedback` (limit 20) when tool availability is in doubt; report raw SEE/LOAD vs NOT visible instead of silently using local fallbacks.
- Add a git commit trailer `Brief: #192` to every commit for this brief so flower can exact-link commits back to the brief.

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Merged to master by flower-orchestrator (daemon 29). Same commit as #137 (paired on branch flower/137-192-roster-slimming): merge 76c0536 / worker commit 3731712. Retired (reset_state=Retired) + dead daemons now hidden from recall_roster by default; include_retired=true surfaces them; filters.hidden_retired reports the suppressed count. Verified "expected" successors stay visible (isRetiredOrDead only hides retired/dead), so the reset handshake is unaffected. Full suite green on MAIN: 947 tests / 945 passed / 2 skipped / 0 failed. Live in MCP sessions after the flower MCP server next reloads.

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Done on branch flower/137-192-roster-slimming (commit 3731712), designed together with #137 since both touch RecallRosterTool + DaemonRosterService. #192 (live-only default): recall_roster now HIDES retired (reset_state=retired) and dead daemons by DEFAULT, so the payload carries only live/relevant rows (expected/alive/stale/idle). New `include_retired=true` flag surfaces all of them again. `filters.hidden_retired` reports how many were suppressed, and `total_count` carries the full in-scope count while `count` stays the returned-daemon count. As make-before-break resets accumulate, pollers no longer pay a steadily-growing payload for terminal rows. Combined with #137's audit trimming, a heartbeat poll now returns only live daemons with a short audit tail instead of every generation with its full ~150-entry trail. Files: app/Mcp/Tools/RecallRosterTool.php (schema+handle), app/Services/DaemonRosterService.php (roster() filter + isRetiredOrDead helper), config/flower.php. Tests added in tests/Feature/Mcp/DaemonRosterToolsTest.php (retired/dead hidden by default + include_retired opt-in). Full suite green (946 passed, 1 pre-existing skip); pint clean. Not merged — left for orchestrator review.

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Target branch flower/137-192-roster-slimming is merged to the default branch; suggest marking the brief complete.
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Feedback #88 Authority: OPERATOR APPROVAL REQUIRED Funnel: A - operator approved brief Gate: this brief must not be dispatchable until the operator approves it. Kind: idea Source: flower-refine Summary: recall_roster returns retired/dead daemons (with full audit) indefinitely — bloats the payload for daemons that poll it each cycle. Add a live-only default or filter (e.g. include_retired=false). Detail: Polling recall_roster(project:flower) each daemon cycle to check my own winddown/reset/compaction flags. Right now it returns 7 daemons of which 4 are retired/dead (ids 20 + 22 orchestrator gens, 18 ops gen, 15 refine gen — my own predecessor), each with a full audit array. Only 3 are live (orchestrator 24, ops 23, refine 21). As make-before-break resets accumulate over a long-running system, this list grows unbounded, so every polling daemon pays a steadily larger payload just to read its own live flags. Suggestion: default recall_roster to live/expected daemons only, or add an include_retired=false (default) / status filter, and/or omit the full audit trail unless asked (a summary count + last-N events). Keeps the hot polling path compact. Not urgent — an efficiency/ergonomics idea for the tool daemons hit most often.

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